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As I See It — The Insidious Meaning of Means-Testing

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February 16, 2012

By Col. Steve Strobridge, USAF-Ret.

The president’s FY 2013 budget proposes “tiering” military health care fees based on retired pay levels, so retired E-6s and below would pay one rate, E-7s to O-4s would pay higher rates, and O-5s and above would pay the most.

The Pentagon offers this proposal as if basing health care fees on retired-pay level is doing retirees a favor.

In fact, it’s an insidious attack on the very nature of service-earned benefits.

They may use terms like “tiering” all they want, but let’s call it what it really is: means-testing.

To start, let’s recognize this proposal is uniquely discriminatory toward the military community.

No other federal health care beneficiary pays income-based premiums. The president, the speaker of the house, and the secretary of defense all pay the same health care premiums as the lowest-grade federal civilian.

Means-testing health care fees also is rare in the private sector.

Why? Because it’s a benefit that’s earned by service to an employer or, in the military’s case, to the country.

What kinds of things are means-tested? Welfare programs, social insurance programs, and other unearned benefits that are provided as a government gift or “safety net” for those in need of assistance.

I’m sorry, but military health care benefits most emphatically are not a gift, and MOAA believes these proposals represent inappropriate increases for all grades, regardless of retired pay level. 

Generations of servicemembers were induced to serve a career by promises that their decades of arduous service and sacrifice would earn them these benefits. In other words, service and sacrifice constituted their (enormous) prepaid premium.

The means-testing proposal throws that out the window — and with it goes the very dignity of your service.

It turns the whole meaning of service on its head. What you reap is no longer based on what you’ve earned, but on what you need.

So the longer and more successfully you serve, the less benefit you earn and deserve?

How does that compute?

Onceyou buy into establishing some kind of income threshold for means-testing, who’s to say one threshold is more appropriate than another? The next time the government needs money, it can simply reduce the threshold to make you pay more.

If this means-testing plan goes through, you’re deluding yourself if you’re thinking it will be limited to health care fees.

There have been many past proposals (which MOAA successfully fought) to means-test retired pay COLAs, for example.

In the 1990s, various plans offered by legislators and others would have reduced COLAs or delayed them until age 60 for servicemembers whose incomes exceeded a certain level. One plan would have limited COLAs for any military retiree with an income above the poverty level.

And it wouldn’t stop there. Many in the past have proposed limiting VA disability benefits based on income.

And don’t think the logic trail ends with basing means-testing on retired pay alone.

The 10th Quadrennial Review of Military Compensation (QRMC) noted that retired pay often doesn’t correlate with a retiree’s true income, because many enlisted retirees have high-paying jobs or officers might be unable to work after retirement for disability, etcetera.

So the QRMC proposed basing fees on adjusted gross income reported to the IRS, as is already the case with Medicare Part B premiums.

Under that philosophy, your health care benefits (and then why not your COLAs and VA compensation?) would be cut back not only because you served your country long and successfully but also because your spouse has a good job, because you’ve been a successful investor, because you inherited money from a relative, or any number of other reasons.

So in the end, what means-testing really means is, “You didn’t earn squat.”

I don’t care what grade you retired at, that philosophy will put the blocks to you and yours.

If you don’t want that to happen, send your legislators this MOAA-suggested message.


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 Richard  Conover
"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Program If this were a measure of socialist sentiments, it will be interesting to see which members of Congress support the means testing proposal.
 Perry  Bishop
Do members of Congress pay tiering, with House Members paying less than member of the Senate? Are House members health issues less costly than those of Senate members? The sad part of all of this is that the vast majority of retired members -- those who are on TRICARE for Life, are beyond a working career -- thus, boxed in financially. Members of Congress have no skin in the game and suffer no consequence for their actions. Perry Bishop
 Gary  Strausser
I find it insulting to retired members of the military that Washington bureaucrats aren't being asked to make contributions to their heath plans. The Obama administration is reducing the size of the military in order to increase the size of government, and now they want to cut pension and health benefits for those who have done far more for their country than the bureaucrats? I reired as a Captain from the Army National guard and began receiving retirement pay at age 60. As long as my wife and I are still working at our civilian careers I can afford to pay for Tricare. But what happens after we retire from our civilian jobs? My brother retired as an E-7 from the Air Force (20 years active duty.) He can ill afford this additiona cost, nor should he have to do so.
 James  Graves
Very good article and even better comments below! I just have one question: Everyone is ranting and raving about the budget cuts and what it means to our military, so why doesn't someone spell out a plan to where cuts can be made that does not hurt so bad? Yes, I have an answer, cut the foreign aid to the countries that are really our enemies and not our allies. That should be very simple to figure out, I was just a Captain carrying a rifle and it wasn't hard for me to figure it out. And while we're at it, how about all this disaster aid that goes all over the world when we have people here in America who are homeless, starving, in need of assistance just to live! How about these people? No wait, I understand now, they don't vote!!!!!!!!
 Gary  Pachkoski
It would seem, that the best advice a veteran could give to any young man or woman who is considerting joining the military is to seriously reconsider.... There is no honor in our legislative leadership these days, and certainly no courage, commitment or ethical or moral compass. The most respected citizen with the most benefits these days is the one who has paid nothing into the confers of freedom but just sits back and lets someone else pays the dues for their freedom.... Have to stop now, I'm making myself ill.....
 Marvin  Feir
I too am deeply disappointed with the absence of leadership shown by our top officers and enlisted personnel. They most certainly have been absent in the march to be forceful in protecting our earned benefits. We need someone in the higher ranks who is adamently outspoken to speak for us. Is there not another General Curtis LeMay out there somewhere?
 Richard  Calass
I carry a Kipling poem that always seems to define the soldiers plight. It is as, it has always been, the soldier so ardently sought out in war, but at peace a burden to all. This erosion of honor and benefit is just starting. You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all: We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational. Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace. For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!" But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
 Andrew  Seremeth
Means testing will present some "bad" feelings among military retirees. It may be "seen" that senior officers will be getting "better" medical treatment because they pay more. Will it be seen that enlisted retirees may received "less" medical treatment because they do not pay as much? This means testing is going to be seen as medical treatments by "rank". UGH. Andy Seremeth
 John  Hartman
Tricare has become too expensive for DOD to support so now the Military Leadership is trying to implement the same class warfare approach that President Obama spews almost daily with his tax policy. Panetta was expected to be an advocate for furthering the Obama agenda of division of people by income level. Some of us would have expected more from those Leaders wearing the uniforms of our military! Since DOD cannot afford Tricare for the retired population that earned the benefit it is time to relieve DOD of this burden. Immediately transfer the retired military population over to the Federal Employee Healthcare System! Give us the same benefit that our President enjoys as do all Civil Service (CS) employees and CS retirees. I seem to have missed the call by our President to raise the medical costs on the Federal Healthcare Employee System??????
 Hugh  Sims
While I realize MOAA feels it must do everything in its power to protect existing benefits I do not feel it is unreasonable to apply some type of "means" check to determine who is better able to afford an increase in Tricare costs. I "retired" at age 44 as an O-5 and was fortunate enough to continue my career as a pilot with Northwest Airlines. Now at age 72 I have a retirement income which would enable me to pay a larger co-pay if need be. I do agree that all Federal workers should also equally tasked, but let's not be so stubborn that the entire Tricare program could be placed in jeopardy.
 Bill  Pool
This goes much deeper then what is reflected here. It does appear that the proposed budget sengles out this of us who are 65 and over. My wife and I will pay $2400 this year for MEDICARE,and now they want us to pay more for TRICARE FOR LIFE! This is not an even playing field..in that who out here in our military medical system is paying $2400...even if you don't create any medical bills? $2400 is a good chunk of our retired pay..It does appear that our current active duty folks seem to have forgotten that us older retired folks, who are not senior officers,don't make a bunch of money. By the way..during most years we don't create $2400 in medical bills...why not pay the differance to TRICARE FOR LIFE? Further, it does appear that our current military leaders may have let us down?
 Richard  Rinaldo
Col Strobridge is too tactful. This from Wikipedia:From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.[1] In German, "Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen!". The phrase summarizes the principles that, in a communist society, every person should contribute to society to the best of his or her ability and consume from society in proportion to his or her needs. In the Marxist view, such an arrangement will be made possible by the abundance of goods and services that a developed communist society will produce; the idea is that there will be enough to satisfy everyone's needs.[2][3]
 Donald  Oglesby
It really boils my blood to hear the weakest apologists among us lie down and say inane things like "pony up". I have been on that pony since I enlisted in 1957 and went on to complete 23 years in the sea services. It is time for all those former military members who, upon reaching flag grade have become nothing more than politicians in uniform selling us down the river. As others here have reiterated, Honor the contract, or give it up to those who will.
 James  Wamsley
I have two issues here. 1. I would like to see MOAA call out the people in the Pentagon who are making these proposals, particularly the military folks who are selling their brothers and sisters down the river. These are the people we should hope have our backs, but are proving not to be our defenders. Shame them to honor the contract. 2. Those of you who have responded to this article stating the rest of us 'need to pony up' are also missing the point. Not one of us caused this deficit. Not one of us started two unfunded wars. Not one of us shirked our duty to our country. More than enough has been asked and given. Honor the contract!
 Dennis  Taddy
First good assessment Steve! For those of you who are deluded into thinking this is the FIRST administration to ever have tried to balance the budget using the military retiree as the whipping boy--wake up. It is called a politician. We are are just to often to lazy to get of our butts and fight the politician's for our entitlements. Guys, and gals remember most politicians only remember until the next election. I believe that we are in for a belt-tightening, but our belt shouldn't get any tighter than the politicians that led us down this road.
 Eugene  Pascuzzi
You see it like I feel it.
 William  Fischer
I know we were all "promised" free health care for life, but that was before 15 trillion dollar deficits. Since we can't possibly live with a budget based on only spending cuts, I'm afraid we're all going to have to pony up a little more. I agree that those with the most should bear more of the burden than those with the least. If means-testing is the way to do this, so be it.
 Joe  Park
A long time ago, I worked on the staff of General Andrew P. O'Meara. The days of generals like him, who took care of the troops first, are long gone. I knew we were in trouble when I saw the President on TV announcing his military budget plan and the JCS was standing behind him clapping adoringly. Our military leaders have become political sheep. Iron Andy would be embarrassed!! Joe Park
 Patrick  Allen
Steve, Very well done and it helps us out here in Colorado engage with our elected representatives. The Denver Mile High chapter is working hard to get our voice heard. Thanks and keep up the fight! V/r COL Patrick B. Allen, USAR (Ret.) MHMOA Chapter Secretary
 Norman  Russ
Excellent article. The way it's going soon I will not be able to afford the free health care promised to those of us who entered service before 1956. We lost it once already, had it restored by the Supreme Court now the current administration is attempting to "TIER" (polite word for screw) us once more. service to the country means nothing to these politicians.
 Dick  Young
I don't like having fees increased, but I recognize there are times that must happen. Means-testing may not be the best or fairest way to do that - I'm undecided myself right now - but if that's the way it's going, then I expect the same treatment for all Federal employees and elected officials, rather than singling out the military. I don't object as much to shared sacrifice as I do to sacrifices demanded of only one relatively small group.
 Jerry  White
This is just another broken promise to the military retiree. It is coming and the only thing we can do is flood our representatives with emails and calls in opposition. It has been in effect for Medicare insurance for some time. For those who saved and invested and now have a higher income, including tax free bond income, the cost is higher. When you add this cost to the new tiered tricare insurance, it could run over $600 or $700 a month. If this becomes the case, then we should be allowed to shop for our own insurance and opt out of Medicare and tricare. Col. J White,retired
 Richard  McCormick
Kipling knew a thing about war and all its ramifications. Like Richard Calass, "Tommy" is a favorite of mine. Sad to say, the manner in which our government has treated veterans of past wars is not an encouraging sign for the current planned cuts in benefits. The "Bonus Army" of 1932 is a case in point. In 1924, Congress approved a bonus for World War I veterans. This bonus was never paid and the government's response to the protesters in Washington, DC serve as an object lesson for us today.
 Alfred  Dansker
Here we go again. No, Colonel, the military isn't the only ANYTHING! You need to include Federal Civil Servants, Social Secutity Recipients, and non-government workers to name a few others. EVERYONE is getting hit one way or the other. If you pay taxes, next year you are REALLY going to feel it. So, while I'm with you on protecting what we have, there are other interest groups just as vulnerable as military folks. I am in ALL of these categories, and I'll feel it 6 different ways. I would much prefer your call to arms to realize everyone who works & draws a wage is going to get hit. It's our own fault: we are all living a lot longer than folks did even a generation ago. Unless there's a tooth fairy out there that's going to make all the debts go away, we, the living, have to pay for it. I still like your position to get the all military folks energized, but with every other interest group saying the same thing, my bet is that we will all be hit, regardless how loud we roar. warm regards, Stev
 Gerald  Haynes
I have noticed over time that beyond the second star, general officers seem to have a tendency to become political bureaucrats. This is a very sad situation indeed. Somebody ought to do some research on the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, and realize that probably one, if not the, most important functions of Government is to provide for the defense of the country. Today, every key decision seems to be driven by $$$. Earlier, military personnel were regarded as honorable and selfless citizens that cared about liberty. Now, there is a tendency to group us all in one big pool with civilian employees, welfare recipients, other "entitlees" and others who have done nothing out the ordinary to earn the benefits we were led to believe would be ours when we raised our right hands and swore (or affirmed). What a sad day we have reached, indeed.
 Dennis  Solomon
Nice write-up. Now couple that with increases in Medicare part "B" fees (also means tested and double over the next few years), many military retirees over 65 will have some real cash flow issues to contend with.
 Robert  Meek
Typical of this administration. I do have a serious question though. Since I retired from the Army Reserve and my retired pay is based on a point system, my retired pay is considerably less than had I retired from active duty. Do they propose to prorate my Tricare fees the same as my retired pay is prorated? Also this shows why we must get all our military brothers and sisters to the polls to vote this November for folks who will live by the commitments made to our service members.
 Dwight  Blue
This article is true. In short Congress must think we are fools.
 Arthur  Bailey
Another example of the collegial disloyalty displayed by those at executive and senior service levels in the Department of Defense and services. We did not amend or modify the quality of our service to the United States, or the risks we offered to take, based on pay grade or rank. Art Bailey
 Joseph  Gibbons
Loved your article ~ “BZ” ~ Well Done! This does not add to the unity of the military but detract from the service to our country by all who served. Why not go further by adding “served in combat” to the equation or even better add the branch of service. Bad idea!!!! Joseph Gibbons
 Daniel  Habes
I agree with the premise of this article, and I understand that once the barn door opens there could be more, but when I used to play the Prairie Trace gold course at WPAFB, the higher ranked officers paid more to play than the lower grade personnel. Just saying.
 William  Houck
Keep in mind that we are talking about "The Pentagon". These are both military and civilians most of whom are not elected officials. Remember David Chu and DoD and his looney tune proposals. Secretary Gates was into this a little but Panetta is a budgeteer so cutting is to be expected from him. But where does the inputs and concurrences come from? The military and civilian leaders within the pentagon who are not defending those who have retired. Remember the concurrent receipt issues? and the VA disability compensation issues that we are still dealing with today? Remember how you could not draw both military retirement and VA disability compensation and how our pay was docked by the disability amount? Back then the "Pentagon" budgetted for our retirement pay AND when it was offset by our disabilty pay the offset amount went back to the "Pentagon" to be spent on other items in its budget. My only point here is that as Pogo said " we have met the enemy and they is us" or Aeschylus exclaimed"It is by
 Alan  Lubke
Let us give our attention now to defending VA compensation in our own regions before it is cut back. Speak up for the facilities in your area. It is time to be VA strong. CLICK HERE or copy and paste and read my San Francisco VA story: http://ojlubke.com/pixseries/pixparkinggarage-va/01indextophotos.html
 Brett  Strong
 Edward  Watkins
Good article. However, when will Col. Strobridge and others at MOAA come to understand that the President and his administration dislike (some say, "hate") the Military? To them it is one of the major causes of suffering around the wrong, allowing the United States to subdue other nations and plunder their resources to our benefit. Any American armed force is a problem in their way of thinking. They really wish they didn't have to deal with the Armed Forces except to have enough for "meals-on-wheels" missions. Until we rid Washington of these people such thinking will predominate. Unfortunately, the debt problem existing before the last presidential election has been exascerbated immensely by this president. This means that even an administration with a different view will have difficulty restoring our strength due to lack of resources.
 John  Crean
 John  McMahon
Excellent and informative. I suspect nobody reads these messages, but only count them and throw them in a pile. I added to my letters: "I write you, respectfully, as a retired military officer who served as an enlisted airman and later as an officer; both in peacetime and in combat. I wish to remind you that we received a reduced active duty paycheck because of the credit we received towards the deferred pay and health care we would collect in retirement if we continued to serve for at least twenty years. If you now feel that you, the Congress of the United States, can go back on those promises made by our government to induce continued service, and implement means testing on those benefits earned by decades of service, you can also say Good By to the concept of the all volunteer military. Our retirement and health care is an earned benefit, NOT a welfare program! If means testing is to be applied to our retirement benefits, it should apply to all, including the President and the Congress."
 Henry  Taucher
All military personnel, active and retired, should get together and voter the present administratin out of office.
 Darrell  Davidson
Great article!! I am something of a maverick on "means testing" in that I have long advocated that the long term fix for Social Security is to recast it as what its FICA name implies -- an insurance policy with benefits based upon eligible claims made. That boils down to "means testing". That being said, it has no place in military or any other health care program. I share the sentiments of others who feel we have been absolutely abandoned by our present military leadership in singing on to such a concept.
 Eric  Olson
Well said. Thanks for expertly articulating the situation for all of us. Now if we can just get the politicians to wise up.
 Gary  Forrester
Excellent article today! Congress has a short memory of the Tricare for Life changes several years ago requiring military retirees who are 65 to sign up for Medicare part A. I understand the budget issues. But the only way to fix the issue is with more jobs in the country.
 Thomas  Andrews
Excellent article today! It's the temper of our times, no? I don't think they'll limit means testing just to military retiree benefits. It'll spread to the rest of the Fed workforce for sure, only slightly later, after the election. At least that seems to be the thinking at the V.A. where my wife has worked for 22 years. At the FAA, too, where I have aging friends. It's all a witch's brew of opportunities. A lot of the right/wrong contention here is philisophically based, but the opposition is usually expressed in more practical terms, such as retention, which are better suited to sway decision makers. Yet even if we don't like this initiative, one can think of this as a perverse extention of the progressive taxation concept, which we already have. Maybe that onerous chart or spreadsheet of TRICARE increases, from a few days ago, can at least be blunted a bit before they throw the switch. Anyone here think it'll go away entirely? I don't.
 Melva  Mallison
Great article. Also, while I am not for means testing being applied to the benefits of military service, perhaps the proposed changes (including a brand new enrollment fee for TRICARE standard on top of a deductible) should only be for people making over 200K a year, since the administration considers them rich. True means testing, if meant to be fair, would take into account current total income, not just military rank. And what about the affect of the percent of disability.
 Harlie  Treat
Superbly well said, tells it the way it is.
 Charles  Sperry
Sounds like another stupid move that Panetta would come up with, not since Les Aspin have we had a worse Secretary of Defense.
 Delbert  Straub
As time passes I become more angry. When I read the letter of "the 32" I found it despicable. I do not question their duty or country, but I find their "honor" questionable. Our senior leaders seem to spend more time being politicians rather than leaders. But then maybe that is how they got to where they are? Maybe it is time for a class-action lawsuit for breach of contract? del straub
 Glen  Roby
Dear Senator Paul, Thanks for quickly responding to my letter.  I realize you and your staff are currently very busy handling the serious issues facing our nation.  However, I feel as if you missed the point of what I am asking you to consider before you vote to quadruple the fee I will pay for my health care coverage.  I will attempt to make this as clear as possible so to allow you to understand what most retirees agree upon in general and specifically in our daily discussions.  To clarify mine and numerous other of your constituents stance on this issue, I outline as follows: 1.  Our services promised us free healthcare for life if we made a career out of the military, regardless of how successful we were upon retirement. 2.  Please do not use or compare the "civilian sector" with the military, active or retired, since only 1% of Americans ever serve and only a small fraction of that 1% ever make it to retirement.  Therefore, there is no legitimate comparison sampling or valid statistical formulat
 Donald  Thompson
It’s right on the money – however It seems DOD missed a few items as nothing was said about DOD charging recruits to enlist or for their Basic Training which would be necessary for them to survive their next assignments. In addition those charges for meds seem awfully high when you read about $4 meds at the big box stores. As for Tricare for life – is there any indication as to how those premiums will be paid or deducted from Retired Pay or in my case CRSC? Since I retired many years ago at a time when pay raises were being assigned to allowances and sold as a tax advantage to the troops – my retired pay is nothing like those currently serving and the proposed charges for TFL premiums will quickly amount to ¼ of my CRSC. I’ve never been able to do as I hear so many state “Laugh all the way to the bank”. That however reminds me, will they soon be charging us for the expense of preparing the remainder of our monthly entitlements? I do hope the troops will get behind the efforts to reverse some of these e
 John  Clark
Well-supported and correctly stated TRUTH. Unfortunately, Truth, Honor, keeping promises, etc. only count among honorable men and women. And, Truth & Honor have zip to to with getting elected by an increasingly polarized, "dumb & numb" electorate w/ the "long term vision" of fireflies! All we can do is beat the drum, which we should. But, in the end, we've always been on the "crack end of the whip," and anyone who dreamed otherwise was naive. SO, after yelling like hell and reminding the myopic, vote-grabbing SOB's of how dishonorable and despicable they are, all Servants can do is suck it up and move on. "[By definition] A democracy always deserves and gets what it votes for."
 Charles  Costello
All the above is true. We need to keep up our personal contact with our " reps" in Congress. Go to their town hall meetings and stand up for what you have earned. You are leaders and now is the time to do so. You were taught that leading from the rear or having others do it for you never worked. As a united body we can succed.
 Craig  Petersen
Fellow ex-service members, Many of you are wondering why the Admirals and Generals as well as the senior enloisted at the Pentagon support this. Quite easy to see. They want jobs when they retire in the Beltway. What major contractor would ever hire someone who supports reduced spending on weapons systems, ships, arms, aircraft etc? Not one who wants a very high paying job. This whole thing makes me sick. I'm only 45 and have many years of this crap to look forward to. If after you eliminate all the social welfare programs etc, reduce all spending with programs that just don't make much sense (i.e. why can't the local community/church and families take care of their own versus Uncle Sam?) then I'm willing to give an extra hand. Until such time, NO! Our elected leaders need to remember that we were all taught to be warriors. As a segment of the voting population, we should be feared more then all the people who are on Welfare and other social programs who don't vote as often as we do. Just
 Leo  Johnston
Excellent article. Until they demonstrate they deserve better, I believe we should not refer to our Senior Service Chiefs and Enlisted Advisors as leaders (or even representatives) but as APPOINTEES only. Leo Johnston
 Janet  Snyder
Great report !! I agree wholeheartedly !! Janet Snyder, Military Widow, MOAA Auxiliary member
 Roger  Kline
Nuts on any more sacrifice by military retires. We are PREPAID! ROGER KLINE
 Vernon  Bliss
I don't think this article was very constructive in light of the tremendous problems our nation is facing. The attitude of "let somebody else take the hit" does not help the situation. If means testing for retirement health care means they will leave the rest of the current retirement system alone (50% at 20 years, etc.), then I support the proposal. Any legislation, however, would need to have specific language that would make it very difficult for Congress to change the retirement system in the future. As a retired O5, I believe the retired military community does need to sacrifice something to help with the deficit. Paying a reasonable amount for our health care is certainly small in comparison with the dire straits in which many Americans have found themselves during this recession. Vernon L. Bliss, LtCol, USAF, Ret.
 Robert  Derr
I couldn't agree with you more; thanks for your diligence and excellence in bringing this to light; I'll do all I can to help remedy the situation.
 Kevin  Butler
Excellent article. As a service-connected disabled vet entering into service in 1970, I remember the very day I was told I would have free medical for my dependents and me for life. Now I cannot get into an Active medical hospital or clinic, and ahead is a annual entry fee for TRICARE Standard and Tricare for Life. Unbelievable break of trust, while all I hear from the Administration, Senior Service Chiefs and Enlisted Advisors is we need to "pay our fair share!" I say I paid my fair she in deployments, time away from family, and the disabilities I suffered from honorable service to the nation while others stayed at home and enjoyed life. If you want to change the "system," then do it for new entrants, but honor the promises made to our veterans who served with honor and commitment, with benefits promised and now broken! My recent email to one of my two Senator’s responded with we all need to share the pain in this fiscal environment...to me another indicator that we retirees and veterans are not valued
 Richard  Berg
What infuriates me is that our most senior Service representatives, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, JCS, has rolled with the Obama administrations act of treachery. It is no longer required to be "combat correct" but only to be "politically correct". The JCS as much as the administration has broken faith with all Service members and veterans. But then they have their example set by Colin Powell and not Eric Shinseky!! Would a George Patton, Bull Halsey or Chesty Puller put up with this BS. I think not.
 Wade  Taylor
Where are the Generals and military leaders who are supposed to be "looking out for the troops"? I am afraid "leadership" and the "warrior spirit" are rare at the higher levels of the military. Politics and political correctness have replaced them. When was the last time someone fell on his/her sword to battle for the troops?--even the retired Generals seem silent except for a few supportive voices. We are now at the mercy of the "Pentagon bean counters" who have to "save" money in the personnel budget so they can waste it in some other area! And politicians--do not count on them as they only worry about the next election. And spending to buy the votes.
 Roger  Lane
i joined the Marines in '59 ,you guys my age know we worked for peanuts,living conditions by todays standards were poor but we served proudly and were promised a retirement and medical after 20 years,and it wasn't bad to recently,now it seems they have made up a new set of rules and going to use us to pay for all the mistakes they have made getting the country so far in debt.i really don't think i will advise my grandsons to enlist to be lied to and used.its come to them and us and they make the rules but don't have to live by them.
 Gary  Cole
Well written and thoughtful article. Between my ex's "entitlement" to 50% through the Former Spouse Protection Act and future degradation/devaluation how much will be left ? I wonder if there is a way I could decline my O-6 retirement pay altogether without self-injury? Seems they need it worse than me. Take my money and go by some muffins for Panetta and the boys. Cole
 R  Holliday
I can still recall General Robert Dixon's comments during military retirement ceremonies at Hqs Tactical Air Command, to the effect that we all work for an "ungrateful employer". Now I'm starting to understand what he meant.
 Le'Roy  Delaney
All that have been written and mauled over is true and as most of us have indicated to follow through the purpose of halting or diverting actions to hamper our present state of liviehood. Basically, we and our helpful leaders must seek and find the veterans in sympathy to our delimina asking and hammering away without seemingly browbeating to approach members of congress to co-operate with their efforts to our needs. We must realize that congress changes admininstration and those that always want to pick our pockets as they have the purse strings and so easy to fiddle with our benefits. I say stick with the efforts your implying and me and my spouse send our blessings.
 Donald  Gilleland
This is a great article; however, it's clear to me that we need to understand that all of our benefits can be changed or eliminated at the stroke of a pen. We are at the mercy of Congress. Few Congress critters have ever served in a military uniform and many of them have no appreciation for those of us who did. Promises made to us 50 or even 60 years ago are meaningless, unless those critters are willing to honor that service and those promises. Unfortunately, some members of Congress and even many citizens don't look at our health care and retirement as deferred income. It's too easy for them to forget the sacrifices we made and see us simply as a drain on the Federal budget. Folks, it's almost certain to get worse before it gets better, if it ever does!
 William  Lavelle
I nearly died ... twice, in service to my country. I saw friends die. I feel so betrayed.
 Kenneth  Marx
I have read all of the reviews written thus far and agree with statements made. However, one issue has not been addressed by anyone. That's what this proposal, if implemented, would do to future recruitment. No thoughtful, intelligent person would join the service as an officer or enlisted. The majority of people who are foolish enough to join would most definitely NOT be the best of the best. There are so many ways the services can be hampered in their ability to perform the mission. Having dumb people has not been one of them in the past, but may well be one in the future. We must keep on our representatives (if such exists anymore) to stop this these proposals in their tracks.
 Alan  Frost
One more example of our Administration's pursuit of socialism. Add this to the Navy's disincentivizing of khakis!
 Joseph  Williams
This reminds me of the same concept used in the VA Hospitals.Two soldiers in the same foxhole are both shot at and missed, but because soldier A makes more money in civilian life than soldier B........Veterans have not been treated fairly for years. The VA doesn't consider a retiree to be a Veteran? A sailor was in a place he wasn't supposed to be on a flight deck and was injured when a jet exhaust almost threw him overboard. He gets VA coverage while another Sailor does his job correctly gets nothing. Revolutionary pensioners got paid no matter what. What happened? Since the Military are the only Patriots left, the civilians do not want to pay for their protection. In fact, they want us to abide by peacetime rules in a War Zone. One of these days the enemy will be at their door and they will have to face the enemy.
 Howard  Haney
Just another example of how low our Nation can go. Remember when we were all told that when you join the service you and your dependents health care would be covered at no cost, for life. It should be obvious to everyone that our service to this Nation means nothing to the current leadership or Legislative members. Let this be a lesson to all current members and those considering becoming a member of our elite forces…
 James  Davis
At this point I am beginning to question the Honor and Integrity of the US Government. First we have a crisis with Social Security and Medicare where the politicians have spent the "Trust Funds" and left the Country holding bonds that the taxpayers have to redeem in order to pay the promised benefits from these Federally Mandated Defined Benefit programs. Now to have the same Government try to renege on its promise to the members of the Armed Forces. What is next?
 James  Harbison
If they are going to do this they must means test all individuals who receive government benefits in any form. More particularly, members of the Legislative and Executive branches and all civil service employees. It's time stop making the military the "test" group for all government social probrams or to balance the budget on the backs of those who were willing to give their lives for this Country
 James  Willis
I suggest that e-mail and letters that wind up in a low-level office assistant's in-basket to be matched up with form letters that have been robosigned, while important, might not be the most effective weapon. I'd like to see MOAA and every member of the Coalition launch a scathing education campaign aimed at the voters of this country against every Senator and Representative that supports the Administration's proposals regarding health care benefits. And don't forget to educate every Senator and Representative how many registered voters in their state or district are being educated on their positions. Put their positions in every monthly magazine and put up billborads along major roads with some catchy phrase about how they're putting the screws to the military all the citizens of their state or district depend to insure their freedom. The bunch in Washington is driven by two things: campaign contributions and votes. If we don't identify and target for removal from office those who don't support the idea of
 William  McIlwaine
I love the way the author described what the proposal does: "It turns the whole meaning of service on its head. What you reap is no longer based on what you’ve earned, but on what you need." Doesn't the proposal for means testing simply move us toward Karl Marx's ideal "From each according to his ability to each according to his need"?
 William  Reade
This needs to go to everyone in Congress and the Dummies in DOD Proclamation WHEREAS, From WWII to the early 1990's, agents of the United States Government made this offer... serve for 20 years in the military and retire, and you will receive free medical care for yourself and your eligible dependents, at military treatment facilities, for as long as you and your eligible dependents live; and WHEREAS, events have proven that this promise was the greatest gimmick, promotional stratagem, and swindle of all time, and the active duty military believed it as they were suppose to; and WHEREAS, this promise was made initially by Military Recruiters, and then over a 20 to 30 year period by, Basic Training Instructors, line level Supervisors, 1st Sergeants, Commanding Officers, and Reenlistment Counselors, all agents of the United States government, as directed by publications received from the highest level of the military hierarchy; and WHEREAS, the military hierarchy authorized the making of the promis
 Richard  Braud
To Robert, don't forget, the service senior enlisted advisors agreed with this proposal too. It pains me to think why they came up with this idea and why they support it.
 Jerry  Rodgers
It's bad enough that we on Medicare Part B have to go through that unwieldy Medicare bureaucracy at the cost of $100 a month for the rest of our lives (and that will surely increase) before we can get any benefits from Tricare for Life, with Medicare paying you nothing if you choose to use your own non-participating physician. What a scam! Now to say that we will have to pay what the Administration is proposing in fees for Tricare for Life adds insult to injury. I too am disappointed that we heard not one objection to the Administration's proposals from our senior military leaders.
 Alan  Lidstone
Excellent commentary. If they are so fond of means-testing the benefits of military retirees and disabled members of the military, why don't they apply means-testing to the the six-figure salaries and benefits of Members of Congress.
 Diane  Oswald
Those that got promoted are being punished financially for their hard work. If I'm going to pay based on my retired rank then I want to ALWAYS see a doctor vs. a PA. Why not base a premium on whether you smoke or not, if you are obese or not instead of this ridiculous method of what rank/grade you were when you retired.
 Harry  Lade
It's nothing but socialism pure and simple and we've been dealing with this crap to various degrees for a long time. Example: Military child care...you pay based on rank. When we complained to the wing commander Curtis Bedke, we were told to shut up and color. No thank you to this scheme.
 Julian  Carnes
I agree with Robert Winzinger. Where are the uniformed Chiefs who nod wisely and bless this cruel ploy. I am 78 and this won't affect me that much given my age and health, but to younger retirees, this can be a terrible burden and an out-and-out breach of contract. Of course, this administration doesn't care about contracts, just look at the bond holders of GM who didn't participate in the bailout so the unions could. I am really disappointed in the senior uniformed leadership of the services who caved on this. Shouldn't at least ONE of them resigned in protest?
 Daniel  Irizarry
Excellent article, but unfortunately there is a precedent for the use of means testing for health benefits. The VA hospitals have been using a veteran's income to determine the amount of copay, if any, for drugs, tests, and care for years now, at least here in Puerto Rico. If a non-retired veteran has private medical insurance, he or she is obliged to present its ID card and pay the deductibles indicated thereon. Only those veterans who can show that they are unemployed or have low income receive services at no cost. Congress let the camel's nose into the tent long ago, and I'm afraid the rest of its body will soon follow, if you remember the fable. MAJ Daniel Irizarry USAR Ret
 John  Doroshuk
"to the barricades!!!!"
 S  Middleton
Let's apply means testing. Apply it to The President, congress, Supreme Court, all Federal employees. Also apply it to Social Security and unemployment benefits. Let everyone have a bit of the green apple.
 John  Thompson
 Robert  Winzinger
The rating is based on the article and standing up for what is right. This whole situation is a sad commentary and reflection on the President, his civilian and General and Admiral appointees. To even have them put forward and endorse such a proposal is disappointing at best. I understand the civilian appointees but the Generals and Admirals have absolutely no guts or spines. They should remember where they came from and who they represent. The Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Coast Guradsmen who up to now where proud to serve under their leadership. How about showing some leadership now and speak out against this ridiculous proposal. Talk is cheap when they praise their troops but it is obviously just rhetoric.
 Camden  McConnell
Means testing and many other plans to reduce the "cost" of providing promised "retirement benefits" are all simply means of avoiding the inevitable costs and result from the government's having "enjoyed" our services at a reduced rate while leaving the check on the table for future Congresses to pick up. It is an inherent problem with all "defined benefits" plans, but especially those that are unfunded. If only we, the victims, would now recognize the error and seek to end it for future soldiers.
 James  Britton
If means testing is to be applied, it should apply to all, including the President and the Congress.